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6/26/05 - Sunday

"Gears and Ears at the DuPage County Fairgrounds!"

"The weather was HOT but so were the cars! Check out the 71 Camaro SS's first trip to a Car Show!"
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Points No More!

"Time to replace the old Points with a new MSD-8361 Pro-Billet Distributor! What Better timing, since the power is out!"
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6/25/05 - Saturday

Finally, Resolution to the Passenger Door Panel Restoration!

"With only hours to spare before the Car Show, the Door Panel came together. Now for a Midnight Wash & Wax"
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6/24/05 - Friday

Round and Round we go!

"OK, so it could have been anticipated better. But what would the fun in that be? "
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6/23/05 - Thursday

New Lessons Learned?

"...the quote un-quote easiest part of the door's reconstruction was the weatherstripping, right? Wrong..."
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6/22/05 - Wednesday

A Minor Job takes a turn for the worse:

"...little did I know, that a piece of window felt would cause such problems. Take my advice..."
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6/21/05 - Tuesday

Interior Remodeling Begins:

Passenger Door Panel & Weatherstripping Rebuild in progress

Oops...didn't have the retaining clips!
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    1971 Camaro Interior Restoration / Remodeling:

    Day 5 Second Generation Camaro Passenger Door Panel

    6-25-05

    Who would have thought that something as simple as a door panel restoration would take this long? Refueled by a good night's sleep, I decided that today I would NOT be beaten by the door! I will learn what makes it tick and get it adjusted if it is the last thing I do today!


    Day 5 '71 Camaro SS Interior Parts List:After finding D&R Classic Industrieslkkkkk



    • 1971 Fischer Service Manual for Chevrolet (Luckily I was able to dig up this manual)
    • Case and a Half of Diet Cherry 7-Up (More out of habit than to cool down)
    • 3 Shirts (After a while I even stunk to myself)
    • Water Hose (For several mid-day showers)
    • Wet Rag (To mop the sweat again)
    • Pack of Cigarettes (To calm the Nerves)


    Adjusting the '71 Camaro SS Passenger Window:



    At the end of the day on Friday 6-24-05, I found the reason the window had been kicking my @$%!!! One of the adjustment bolts was stripped (another one) so every time I made one adjustment, another changed. So a quick run to the local NAPA store, to get a bunch of 1/4" bolts, nuts, washers and lock washers...and I was ready to conquer the door!












    The rail that adjusted the regulator to provide front to back tilt for the window, was slipping every time I closed the door, providing erratic results with adjustments. Time to drill it out, and install bolts with nuts and washers!

    Take No Prisoners Today!














    All drilled out and ready for reinstallation into the door!

















    Here is a view of the adjustment rail, being held in place.
    Note: Picture is rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise. The bracket to the bottom right of the picture is the bracket that holds the armrest in place!












    After installing the bolt, I checked the clearances, to realize that the bolt would contact the window track. So I turned the bolt around to have the nut on the outside as shown.


















    Next, I lined up the pivot side of the rail, which I had also drilled out using a 1/4" Drill. That way, I knew that the adjustment wouldn't shift on me again!















    With the rail securely back in place, I was now able to make the adjustments!

    The Slide Bar in the middle with the bolt portruding, adjusts the window as follows:

    • Dropping the bolt down brought the back of the window down, pushing the front of the window further up.
    • Pulling the bolt up, brought the back of the window up, pulling the front of the window down.




















    The Slide at the top with the felt to contact the window, will adjust the contact with the outer window seal. It also has an effect of the inboard/outboard adjustment of the window. Make this adjustment while the window is rolled up completely.



    The Slide on the bottom of this picture, underneath the hand rail, adjusts the bottom stop of the door. This sets how far the window will roll down.

















    The Recessed bolt directly to the left of the window crank, sets the top stop for the front of the window. This ultimately determines how far the front of the window will roll up.

    Directly above this adjustment, is two bolts in slotted holes. These bolts adjust the inboard outboard tilt of the front of the window. These cannot be adjusted when the window is up at the top of travel! Back the window down, make the adjustment then role the window back up. When adjusting these bolts, you must loosen the slotted adjusting bolt found at the bottom left (just left of the porthole) This will allow the front rail to slide and make it easier to adjust.
















    A Better view of the front stop adjustment and the Inboard/Outboard adjustment for the front of the window.
















    The Front Inboard/Outboard Adjustment: This was the final position that was needed for the window to fit properly...this may vary for your window!!

















    Finally, the window was adjusted properly and fit well with the weatherstripping.

    Notice the position of the window in relationship to the roof rail and trim ring. I think I did a few fine-tuning adjustments after this photo












    The Front of the Window fit as well! We have finally beaten the beast!

    Still the window will not roll-up properly with the door closed due to the new weatherstripping. I think it needs some time to break in.

















    A last look at the adjustments of the door before installing the door panel.


















    Now to clean up some loose-ends from this morning's repairs. Need to cut off the excess length on the bolt, so that the door panel will fit.



















    After the cutting is complete, I am now MORE
    THAN READY to finish installing the Door panel!













    Installing the '71 Camaro SS Passenger Door Panel:


    After all that, I finally get to do what I had initially set out to do: Replace the 2nd Generation Camaro's Passenger Door Panel. To think, the Passenger side was the better of the two. Stay Tuned after this, as we explore the Driver's Side Door Panel.






    The old Dynamat insulation was still in great condition, so I trimmed it down a bit...and found that there is a great use for duct tape! Holding Dynamat onto the door, the duct tape worked great!












    When I bought the door clips from D&R, they called for a later-model plastic...but the originals were a metal clip. So watch out for this when ordering door panel clips. Also watch the direction you are installing them. With one of the clips, I partially tore a seam in the vinyl on the other side. Luckily it is unnoticeable. With the replacement door panel, the clips don't line up perfectly, but they are pretty close.












    You will have to cut out the backing for the door handle hole and the window crank hole, as well as split the hole for the armrest support...
    Note: On the passenger side, I just split the armrest support vinyl, but I would recommend reading on to the Driver's side before attempting.













    The next step was to install the upper plastic door molding.
    Note: You may have to bend the clips that run along the window in a bit to hold the molding tighter... otherwise you might find that the door handle will scrape against the new molding.









    Mounting the door panel was relatively uneventful. It certainly looks much better now with the new vinyl and plastic. There might be hope for this old 2nd Generation Camaro yet!

    Note: For those who use a thicker insulation like the dynamat that I installed, the 2 bolts through the armrest to the armrest support are a bit more difficult to install, as the slots in the support no longer line-up properly. You will need to apply extra force to compress the insulation, and put the screws in at an angle.





    Installing the Second Generation Camaro SS Passenger Sill Plate:


    After completing the installation of the Door panel, the sill plate was looking even worse than it did before. Even though I knew I would be replacing the carpet soon...the sill plate was easy enough to remove again later...so why not?





    Made of a very thin Tin-like material, the original door sill plates get beat up pretty bad. just like with the door panel...the Passenger-Side is actually the better of the two!
















    The new sill plate brightened up the look of the interior significantly! This quick and easy 4 screw installation is highly recommended for those in need of interior work. The new sill plates matched the originals very closely, even down to the "Fischer Body" emblem.

    Can't wait to get going on the carpetting now! But that is a job for another day!









    That concludes the first leg of the 2nd Generation Camaro Interior Restoration/Modification.
    There will be many installments to come!

    For now, the car needs to be cleaned up,
    as it will be going to the Annual Gears and Ears Car Show tomorrow at the DuPage County Fairgrounds.


    Here are a few shots of the '71 Camaro after a midnight wash and wax.





    Obviously these are not the stock rims for the '71 Camaro! They actually came off of a customer's car, when he decided to upgrade his '96 Camaro rims to a brand new set of '97 rims. I found the spacers (not a bolt through design, but a bolt-on design that has a second set of studs) through a Corvette company, can't remember their name now.



    Yes, for those who ask...the door handles were shaved. But they weren't shaved very well. The "Body Guy" if you can call him that, decided to ignore my instructions, and didn't weld a plate over the door handles. Instead, he used a strip of Duct Tape and bondoed over the Duct Tape. This is what you would call a POOR use of Duct Tape, and a POOR Example of Body Work!
    I know the car isn't perfect...that isn't why I am going to the car show. I am going to the car show to have some fun! After all, I wouldn't have this website if the car was already perfect. But any idiot can buy a car that is already completed. It takes someone who is dedicated to take what isn't perfect and make it their own project. To all those who restore and modify, We Salute You!




    The Tires are getting a bit old and worse for the wear, but after re-shoeing the 2002 SS for a G-Note...
    I am not ready to apply new rubber to this one yet!


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